Bernard Pyron

 

Who does II Thessalonians 2: 10-12 apply to? Who will be damned
because they refuse to believe the truth? I would not risk following
a false man made theology in light of what this Scripture says.

What if a dispensationalist appears before the Judgment Seat of
Christ and is told he has
given up his identify as spiritual Israel to unsaved physical Israel,
that is, Jews. A dispensationalist still alive might say, "No,
brother, dispensationalism is not a salvation issue.'" But that
argument comes out of the theologies, and not the Bible.

Again, II
Thessalonians 2: 10-12 says "And with all deceivableness of
unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the
love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God
shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That
they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure
in unrighteousness. "

Christ might ask the dispensationalist if he had read Romans
11: 17-26? "And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou,
being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them
partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not
against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root,
but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken
off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they
were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but
fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heedlest he
also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of
God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou
continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed
in: for God is able to graff them in again... And so all Israel shall
be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the
Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"

He is talking about saved Gentiles being grafted into spiritual
Israel. In God's eyes we become Israel and have that identify in him.

Paul speaks about the very important difference between physical,
unsaved Israel and spiritual, saved Israel in Romans 2: 28-29: "For
he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that
circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew,
which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the
spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of
God. "

Paul totally contradicts the teachings of the dispensationalists
here. Dispensationalists try to say that those who are physical
Israel - by race - are still God's chosen people. And classical
dispensationalists say that Jews without Christ must still be honored
by Christians because they are Jews. How could Ol Paul say that
someone who is not a Jew by race could be considered a Jew, if he or
she is one inwardly? And on top of that Paul is saying that a person
why by race is a Jew without being in Christ Jesus is not really a
Jew? No wonder the Jews who rejected Jesus tried to kill Paul.

He remarks in I Corinthians 10: 18 "Behold Israel after the flesh:
are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?"
Physical Israel, or as he says, Israel after the flesh, implies that
there is also a spiritual Israel, and we want to be in spiritual
Israel.

Galatians 6: 16 says "And as many as walk according to this rule,
peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." The Israel
of God is saved or spiritual Israel.

Then, Ephesians 2: 12 tells us that "That at that time ye were
without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and
strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without
God in the world:"

There is only one Israel, and if a person is an alien from it, he has
no hope and is without God. You do not want to make yourself an alien
from spiritual Israel by holding to the separation between Israel -
which for dispensationalists generally includes all physical or
unsaved Israel, or Jews - and the Christian Church which is not in
Scripture.

The assembly and ekklesia are in Scripture. Assembly, from
Ekklesia, is in Acts 19: 41, Strong's Number 1577 ekklesia, a calling
out, a popular meeting. Ekklesia is translated Church many times in
the New Testament. But the Greek word that "Church" comes from does
not describe the
Christian Church as it developed after the Third or Fourth century,
where the iron as government mixes with the clay as Christian faith,
the congregation no longer participates the way they did in Paul's
house churches and the preacher does all the talking. Finally, the
building becomes in large part the Church.

Hebrews 8: 8-9 says "For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold,
the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with
the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the
covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them
by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they
continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the
Lord."

The New Covenant in which God takes away the stoney heart and
replaces it with a heart
that loves God's truth and wants to follow him is with Israel. But
this Israel is a lump which God the master potter has remade, and to
enter it you must be born again (John 3:3). Jeremiah 18: 1-8 is a
parable in which God decides that his first vessel is marred, so he
made the same lump of clay into a new vessel, which is spiritual
Israel. A potter can take a pot which he has thrown on a potter's
wheel off the wheel, mix the lump of clay with dry clay, kneed it
again and throw an entirely new pot from that same lump on his wheel.
I have done this in the past when I was a potter.

Finally, Christ could very well say to the dispensationalist at the
Judgment Seat, "Depart from me because I never knew you. Quoting Luke
13: 25 he might say " I know you not whence ye are:"

Whence is from the Greek pothen, Srrong's Number 4159, meaning, from
which or what place, state, source or cause." He doesn't know you
where you are coming from in your doctrines and beliefs. Bernard